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« on: July 16, 2012, 05:28:59 PM »

I'm considering buying a 1000 bullets by Berry's in 9mm Luger and 45 ACP. The 115 gr for 9mm and 230 gr for 45 ACP. Powders available on hand are Bullseye, AA #2, HP-36 and Titegroup. I find no load data for these bullets at all and short of calling and asking what would you suggest with the powders on hand? Thanks in advance for any input would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 07:50:56 PM »

I'm considering buying a 1000 bullets by Berry's in 9mm Luger and 45 ACP. The 115 gr for 9mm and 230 gr for 45 ACP. Powders available on hand are Bullseye, AA #2, HP-36 and Titegroup. I find no load data for these bullets at all and short of calling and asking what would you suggest with the powders on hand? Thanks in advance for any input would be appreciated.
Use lead data.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 07:59:23 PM »

I'm considering buying a 1000 bullets by Berry's in 9mm Luger and 45 ACP. The 115 gr for 9mm and 230 gr for 45 ACP. Powders available on hand are Bullseye, AA #2, HP-36 and Titegroup. I find no load data for these bullets at all and short of calling and asking what would you suggest with the powders on hand? Thanks in advance for any input would be appreciated.
Use lead data.

Thanks evild I will give that a try.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 11:48:12 PM »

Yep.  Use lead bullet data for your starting loads.

You're likely to find that they want to run in the "middle ground", though - between lead data and jacketed data.  Just work up from the lead starting loads, and stop when you like what you see.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 10:33:24 AM »

I just got to looking a little deeper I found the Lee Modern Loading book current addition lists copper clad bullets. No mention of brand but will use those. The only powder they have in common that I do have on hand is Accurate #5 which I have an unopened pound off. Meanwhile I will work up some loads using the lead and fmj as both seem to be close if kept inside 1200 fps.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 07:38:43 PM »

I use W231 for 9mm plated, 4.3 grains under a 124 grain, gets about 1050 out of my Glock 34. Did you mean you have HP 38? If so, its the same as W231
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 09:45:57 AM »

I use W231 for 9mm plated, 4.3 grains under a 124 grain, gets about 1050 out of my Glock 34. Did you mean you have HP 38? If so, its the same as W231

I realize that W231 and HP 38 are the same for the most part. Now what I was saying was on the bottom of page 507 and the top of page 508 are 115 gr. Copper Plated bullets shown. Now the only powder listed there that I have is Accur #2 and #5. As for 124 gr Copper plated those two powders are also all I have on hand. This is from Modern Reloading 2nd Edition by Richard Lee.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 01:13:43 AM »

Joec
If you have not already ordered the 9mm bullets, you might consider Berry's 130 gr bullet.  Hodgdon has load data for this exact bullet.  I used TiteGroup recently to work up a load and am happy with performance so far.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 08:38:58 AM »

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If you have not already ordered the 9mm bullets, you might consider Berry's 130 gr bullet.  Hodgdon has load data for this exact bullet.  I used TiteGroup recently to work up a load and am happy with performance so far.

Actually Jay I have on hand 500 45 Colt 250 g, 45 colt 200 g, 45 ACP 230 g and 9mm 225g all from Friendswood Bullets. The only bullets I could find even close to their prices are the Berry's so was asking. I've since loaded up the Friendswood and decided to stick with them for my plinking. Very accurate and consistant besides being the least expensive I've found to date. My current batch I got when I got into reloading and bought out a friends equipment and components as well.

This week I loaded up the 9mm .356 225 gr L-RN with BP-38, Titegroup, Bullseye and Unique (got the last 2 yesterday) I will take them out to the range and decide which powder combination I like best then. I figure 15 rounds of each powder using 3 different amounts will give me a pretty good idea of it.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 08:46:24 AM »

If you have those two Accurate Powders, it wouldn't hurt to get their latest load data.
Fill out the online form, and get a copy, here: Accurate Powders Load Data

Accurate, 9mm Luger, plated bullets:

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Weight(Grains)  Bullet Make Bullet Type Start Load(Grains) Start Velocity(fps) Max Load(Grains) MaxLoad Velocity(fps) Max Load Pressure(psi) COL(inch)
No 2 115 BRY RNDS 3.7 976 4.7 1,103 34,853 1.130
No 2 115 RAN RN  3.8 957 4.6 1,081 33,695 1.140
No 2 124 BRY RN  3.8 922 4.4 1,042 34,237 1.160
No 2 124 BRY HBFP 3.3 881 4.1 999 34,231 1.060
No 2 124 RAN HP  3.3 885 4.2 1,001 33,618 1.110
No 2 124 RAN RN  3.8 930 4.6 1,055 34,751 1.160
No 2 147 RAN TRN 3.2 796 3.8 901 34,683 1.160
No 5 115 BRY RNDS 5.7 1,023 6.5 1,145 33,667 1.130
No 5 115 RAN RN  4.8 1,017 5.9 1,150 33,854 1.140
No 5 124 BRY RN  5.6 977 6.3 1,104 34,132 1.160
No 5 124 BRY HBFP 5.0 948 5.8 1,069 34,456 1.060
No 5 124 RAN HP  5.3 961 6.1 1,085 34,392 1.110
No 5 124 RAN RN  5.6 986 6.4 1,118 34,451 1.160
No 5 147 RAN TRN 4.8 855 5.5 967 34,884 1.160
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 08:56:09 AM »


Download it from the same page:

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/accurate_load_data_3.5.pdf

If you have those two Accurate Powders, it wouldn't hurt to get their latest load data.
Fill out the online form, and get a copy, here: Accurate Powders Load Data

Accurate, 9mm Luger, plated bullets:

Code:
Bullet
Weight(Grains)  Bullet Make Bullet Type Start Load(Grains) Start Velocity(fps) Max Load(Grains) MaxLoad Velocity(fps) Max Load Pressure(psi) COL(inch)
No 2 115 BRY RNDS 3.7 976 4.7 1,103 34,853 1.130
No 2 115 RAN RN  3.8 957 4.6 1,081 33,695 1.140
No 2 124 BRY RN  3.8 922 4.4 1,042 34,237 1.160
No 2 124 BRY HBFP 3.3 881 4.1 999 34,231 1.060
No 2 124 RAN HP  3.3 885 4.2 1,001 33,618 1.110
No 2 124 RAN RN  3.8 930 4.6 1,055 34,751 1.160
No 2 147 RAN TRN 3.2 796 3.8 901 34,683 1.160
No 5 115 BRY RNDS 5.7 1,023 6.5 1,145 33,667 1.130
No 5 115 RAN RN  4.8 1,017 5.9 1,150 33,854 1.140
No 5 124 BRY RN  5.6 977 6.3 1,104 34,132 1.160
No 5 124 BRY HBFP 5.0 948 5.8 1,069 34,456 1.060
No 5 124 RAN HP  5.3 961 6.1 1,085 34,392 1.110
No 5 124 RAN RN  5.6 986 6.4 1,118 34,451 1.160
No 5 147 RAN TRN 4.8 855 5.5 967 34,884 1.160
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 09:40:15 AM »

Had it now for a while. I have about a 1/2 lb of Accurate #2 but have not used it yet. As I said I'm going to stick with the Lead bullets I getting from Friendswood and was just considering trying Berry's bullets recently but decided against it for now. So far I've been very happy with what I have on hand which is a pretty good supply.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2012, 02:07:25 PM »

for what its worth i love the berrys plated 230g .45`s

i load them over 4.7g of bullseye and seat them to 1.250 if i remember right
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2012, 02:47:08 PM »

for what its worth i love the berrys plated 230g .45`s

i load them over 4.7g of bullseye and seat them to 1.250 if i remember right

I worked some of the Friendships Bullets particularly the 9mm 125 gr with 5 powders and wasn't pleased with the accuracy of those using Accurate #2. Bullseye, BP-38 and Titegroup where all real consistent with the 9mm rounds. I still need some more 45 ACP to find what works best since the last session was 9mm and the previous one 45 Colt. I will run a couple of hundred rounds of 45 ACP soon though giving me some brass. Berry are still on my list but just not at the moment.

I recently got a 45-70 and working up some loads for it using Oregon Trail Laser cast and True Cast bullets for hunting.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2012, 07:54:50 PM »

I use 4.3 of Bullseye with 115 Berrys 9m and also 4.3 Bullseye with 200 Berrys 45 acp.
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